Dienstglas 6x30 Ddx Serial Numbers
Good day to all, I have a dienstglas in 8x24. Serial # 648168 made by zeiss in jena, blc +, and has weathered out carl zeiss jena on the left plate. Only the borderline is visible. Rhinoceros rusifikator. I attached some pictures for reference.
I have trouble finding information on binoculars in this size. When was it made and for whom. Is this an civilian bino that converted for military? Or possible WWI model remade in WWII for civil use?
Two-unit-objective housing: first recorded serial number 160.797, with a TELACT (information: Thomas Antoniades)- last (so far known) serial number: 389.346 CARL ZEISS LONDON 1914(r) - Binocular Prismatic No 3 (l), that means that in London this 2-unit-housing was produced at least 1 year longer than in Jena. The most common type is the 6×30 strength Dienstglas. 6×30 designates the capacity of the binoculars. The first number (6) refers to the magnification and the second number (30) indicates the diameter of the objective lens (the light-gathering lens) in millimeters. These binoculars where made out of different materials such as Aluminium.
I purchased it from another collector who retrieved in on his trek at the ostfront by some barn/shell blast crater. More information on this bino is greatly appreciated.
Attachments Dienstglas 8x24.JPG (47.8 KiB) Viewed 6266 times. Well I understand 8x24 was not the standard issued binocular size to any WWII combatant.
& by just being that size.naka immediately assumed it was WWI.REGARDLESS of weathered out carl zeiss jena lable on left body. Dienstglas & BLC + being stamped & imprinted on right body doesn't even slightly changed his answer. So when I came here to ask about this binocular & seeing such a rash answer. Well good for you, NAKA, if you collect binoculars.doesn't most member on here also? I found the ordnance code publication date for blc & it was issued to be in effect around mid February 1941. The serial number on the 8x24 does not signify that it was made before 1917, IF following Zeiss' cumulative production numbers.
Hence I would have to search more in depth in Zeiss' production list to find actual date of manufacture for this uncommon size. Perhaps it was for civilian use or a custom order.I know the 8x24 is of WWI model & having 'blc' changed my assumption on this binocular. So all I can guess from gathered information & insights, maybe it is a WWI binocular or REMADE during WWII, or REPAIRED during WWII, or has gone through both wars. All I know for sure is it was recovered on the Eastern Front.like many other equipments.forced to be thrown into shell crater for the Nazi disarmament. THAT IS WHY I HAVE SO MANY SECOND THOUGHTS. Now since I'm done here.not satisfied from an 'experienced' binocular collector.who also lives in GERMANY.I will continue to find my answers by MYSELF if possible. If this is even reasonable enough for anybody to read, then have a great session & continue to find facts to provide sensible knowledge for other people.
With Full Respect, From A Beleaguered & Fanatical Waffen SS Reenactor, Collector call me a bleeding cynical bastard. Done with this forum.
You forgot to say that you chanced your post after I have done my answer, before you havent written that you see the rest of CarlZeiss in the light!!! If there is written Carl Zeiss its easy what you have here. Its a WWi binoculars which was jused in WW II. After the bino came to a service they removed the word Carl Zeiss and marked the bino with blc.
Perhaps it was for civilian use or a custom order. All Military modells have the big screw at the bottom so its not civillian I will continue to find my answers by MYSELF if possible. Good luck, its a nice 20 EUR bino. I've got another pair of dienstglas Got them from my Grandfather. He, has a pair of them but i've got only one. I'm interesting about the history of these binoculars. The markings says; 'Busch Rathe*ow' on left side covered with scratches and 'Dienstglas 6x30 + 274840'clearly on the other, plus barely seen writings 'M H76400' Between the glasses i saw another markings like '275380' The condition is bad i think,,, right glass is ok but left is very blurry So thats it, if I could find another pair i'll post their markings here too.
Hello, These binoculars are from my uncle's estate. He told me many years ago that he brought these back from Europe at the end of WWII. Unfortunately, he did not like to talk much about his experiences in the war so I don't know where he may have obtained these. They are very dirty and show much wear. Also, the top lens of the eyepiece is cracked.